New home bent frame

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Steve

New home bent frame

Post by Steve » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:44 am

Recently purchased 2006 Elkmont/Norris 32 X 68. I have had several problems with dealer on colors being wrong and order but hopefully we have that worked out. With great excitement, we were watching delivery of the home. The home was drug on the road entering the lot that we have purchased. Waiting until the next day we watched the set up crews putting the house together. After a walk around, we noticed these beams bent from it dragging on the road. I am curious if the bend of these beams will cause long term problems and whether or not I should have another round with the dealer or not????

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/medvampir ... pg&.src=ph

Would someone please take a look at this picture and give me their opinion?

Thanks in advance and I have really enjoyed the forums here. They have helped to educate me on my first home purchase.

Thanks again, Steve

rmurray

Re: New home bent frame

Post by rmurray » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:04 pm


Glad you got your home......Maybe another pic closer to the bend from the other direction might make it clearer....Hope some of our set up pros look at this and comment..I will be watching their comments...

Steve

Re: New home bent frame

Post by Steve » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:21 am

Here are some more pics of the beams.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/medvampir ... .dir=/819b

Thanks again
Steve

Eugene

Re: New home bent frame

Post by Eugene » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:00 pm

Steve,
the bent beam in the picture is the rear crossmember. I would be concerned if it were a main I Beams, but the rear crossmember is not as big of a deal. I would however, try to get them to replace it.

I did see other things that are more important and violate the HUD code.
The tie down strap is installed vertically. This will prevent uplift, but not sliding. Every manufacturer requires the tie down straps to be installed a about 45 degrees.
Your installer placed the anchor in the concrete footing. while many installers do this, it is not code compliant. The anchor should be installed slightly inside the skirting line, full depth, with a stablizing plate.

Also, the one single stack block pier appears to me 40" to 48" high. Typically a sinlge stack block pier is limited to 36" high.

Check your installation manual to verify what I just told you.

Eugene

new pictures

Post by Eugene » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:15 am

Steve,
After looking over the new pictures, I stand behind my earlier comments.
The bent rear crossmember is nothing to worry about. I would be concerned about the anchoring. It is one of the worst anchoring jobs I have seen in several years. Basically, your home is NOT anchored and can easily slid off the piers in a wind storm.

rmurray

Re: New home bent frame

Post by rmurray » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:47 pm

Listen to Eugene...Check your set manual you got with the home...and be sure all is the way the engineers expected them to be...Of course that cross member has a purpose...but not a major one...If there was no purpose it would not be there...Ask your dealer to replace it...I would trust Eugene's judgement about set up and anchor procedures..

Steve

Re: New home bent frame

Post by Steve » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:28 am

Thanks for responding. They had not finished the anchoring when I took these pictures. I did have a round with the set up crew about the blocking but they said it was with in Norris specs. I will have perimeter blocking around the house. This is a FHA loan through Wells Fargo and I will be there when the inspector comes in. I have had it with the dealer on this one so I am going to wait until the inspection and let the inspector have their go at them. I special ordered this home and the sales person really messed up. Wrong colors and wrong fixtures. I have battled with them until I am so over this. My girl friend is so angry and I have been kind of keeping her calm about this. I am going to let her loose on the sales person here soon. I bet I could get a few bucks on tickets for that one (haha).

Thanks Again
Steve

Eugene

Re: New home bent frame

Post by Eugene » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:36 am

The comment about the blocking being within specs is a lie. I checked and not one manufacturer will allow a single block pier over 42" high. Check in your installation manual.
Your perimeter blocking is common to all 16' wides. Are there concrete footings, that go below frost line for these piers as well?
Also, even if the anchoring is not complete, the strap angle and auger installation in the footing are violations of Norris's installation manual.
And trust me, your back inspector doesn;t care about how you home is set.

Nick

Re: New home bent frame

Post by Nick » Mon May 01, 2006 1:20 pm

You have much bigger problems with the installations than you do with the bent rear crossmember. From the pier construction to the anchoring. Are the marriage line piers in the correct location and are they sitting on a frost protected footing?

Depending on the installation manual requirements, you may also need additional support under the home near the huge fireplace.

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