Powe residential hot water cylinder more or less from solar array

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lingyueqing
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Powe residential hot water cylinder more or less from solar array

Post by lingyueqing » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:16 am

At our off-grid cabin, I want to power a 240V 3 kW residential hot water cylinder more or less directly from a 5 kW solar array (when the sun is shining). The panels are not required to do anything other than heat the water. If the sun is not shining then we have no hot water - that's OK.

I want to use as few as possible parts, except for the panels themselves and the hot water cylinder.

Looking for design recommendations.

Here are some solutions I have rejected.

Solution 1 (the "chuck the kitchen sink at it" solution):

Connect the panels to a charge controller such as an Outback FM80 (http://www.outbackpower.com/outback-pro ... exmax-6080)
Connect the charge controller to 4 x series connected 12V car batteries (no real storage effect - just enough to keep the inverter charger working)
To the "battery bank", connect an inverter/charger likethe POWER INT201 (http://www.kynix.com/Detail/749921/INT201.html)
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Connect the AC out from the inverter to the hot water cylinder
Add to the above some kind of circuitry to turn off the inverter when the sun is not shining (we never want to actually dip into the ultra light-weight battery bank).

I believe this would work, but would be hideously expensive. Also when the power from the sun drops below the 3 kW drawn by the water heater, the inverter needs to be shut down - whatever power is available is wasted.

Solution 2 (the "AC? who needs stinking AC?" solution):

Connect the panels in a series/parallel configuration, with a blocking diode in series with each string, such that the peak voltage from the array is < 240V (the rating of the water heater).
Connect the resulting DC directly into the heater element of the water heater.
I like this solution from the point of simplicity, and virtually zero parts cost. Also it makes best use of the available solar energy, and will work even when the sun is low, by just pumping a lower DC voltage into the heater.

However I am concerned about damage to the heater's element due to electrolysis, from running it on DC instead of the AC that it is designed for.

Solution 3 (the "dunno quite how" solution):

Some kind of DC to AC chopper that can turn the DC from the panels into AC, at <= 240V.
I don't believe the heater will suffer if it is driven from a lower voltage than it is designed for. This solution also makes maximum use of the available solar energy.

However I'm not familiar with building this kind of circuitry, or whether this is in fact a good idea or not.

matlabphony
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Re: Powe residential hot water cylinder more or less from solar array

Post by matlabphony » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:34 am

The wattage here is instantaneous power demand or the electricity required when all the components of air conditioner are running. But it varies during the running of an air conditioner because the compressor switches off when the temperature of the room reaches the level set in the thermostat. During the time the compressor is switched off, the electricity consumption is only for a few components in the air conditioner, which is much less. Also the initial starting current is high.

Aston10
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Re: Powe residential hot water cylinder more or less from solar array

Post by Aston10 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:44 pm

Thank you

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