Want to buy a park. Is this one a deal? Pick it apart!
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:33 am
We’re veteran house flippers looking to buy our first park. We’re pretty interested in this deal - but is it really a deal? Here’s the details.
I did a direct mail letter to about 200 park owners. Phone rang off the hook! Got 25 responses in ten days. My first thought…why do so many want to sell??? In any case, so far we’ve narrowed down the leads to this one…
Seller asking $140K
3.4 acres located in a military town. Every park owner I’ve talked to says vacancies are not an issue but turnover can be.
10 units - all separately metered for water/electric. All have individual septics. One of the units is not in the park, but on a rented lot across the street. Main road is not paved but in good condition. No pads or driveways at units. Typical to this area, people drive in the yard to park, so they all have dirt/worn grass parking areas. Despite this, the yards/grass are very nice and we did not see any standing water issues.
There is a additional unit not hooked up that is used for storage. Looks terrible but does serve it’s purpose well.
The current owner has treated the park like a personal housing area for friends and family, so the current numbers aren’t great. Owner lives in one unit, daughter lives in one rent free and several others are vacant for one reason or another. Rents have not been raised in years. Owner seems to rent low to rent quick and to keep the long termers.
Here’s the breakdown… (the /$ under rents indicates what the unit SHOULD be getting if rented)
Lot # Rents Year Size Bed/Ba Condition/Notes
1 vacant/$475 1984 14X70 2/2 uninhabitable. Needs removed.
2 owner/$475 1974 14X70 2/2 good interior/exterior needs work
3 $400 1973 12X60 2/1 fairly new tenants
4 $350 1970 12X60 3/1 Decent exterior. Long term tenant with spotty payment history.
5 $450 1997 14X70 3/2 Best unit in Park. Long term tenant who does work in park.
6 $375 1983 14X60 2/1.5 tenant moving soon. New baby on the way. Spotty payments. Will need work.
7 family/$395 1971 12X70 2/1 decent
8 $450 1983 14X70 3/2 Ugly exterior!
9 vacant/$350 1972 12X50 2/1 needs repairs - s/b less than $350 to fix.
10 vacant/$475 1990 14X70 2/2 Good condition. On rented lot @ $90 month.
In a nutshell, only 5 units are now collecting rents (#3,4, 5, 6, 8), #1 unit needs pulled off and replaced, #9 needs repairs before renting and #10 just needs to be rented. If we purchase, owner wants to stay in #2 for some time and daughter will vacate #7.
If full, at current rental rates, the park should be grossing about $4195 per month ($50340/yr)
The total monthly expenses are $1787 as I’ve attempted to budget them
40 Security Lights
80 Trash
150 Insurance
39 Taxes (Land - $460/yr)
23 Taxes (Units - $268/yr)
400 Lawn Maintenance (this is a WAG. Right now tenants are "supposed" to maintain their own lawns)
125 Legal (.0025 of gross rents/12)
420 Repairs (10% of gross rents/12)
420 Vacancy (10% of gross rents)
90 Lot Rent (#10)
$1787 TOTAL Expenses ($21444/yr)
So here’s what we need help with…
What should we offer for the park?
If I use Dave Reynolds QAD formula before even looking at the park (units-vacancy X lot rent X 70), it looks like this: 9 X $175 X 70 = $110250
Using Chrissy Jackson’s Value formula (I/R=V), I come up with $115584
Put into words, the Value of the community (V) equals the Income (I) divided by the Rate of return (R).
28896/25%= $115584 (thot I’d share those formulas for other newbies like me - though rate of return is another WAG).
I’ve seen other ways to structure an offer but I’m sure I need a better grasp of the value of the units themselves.
But, being the house flipping type, it seems like we’re leaving out a huge expense - removing and replacing one unit.
What would you offer for this park?
What questions do we need to ask about the infrastructure?
What contract contingencies should we include?
**What other questions do we need to ask???**
This "seems like" a good deal but I don’t bank on "seems like". I want the numbers and the facts to talk to me. I’m just not sure of all the questions to ask. Given the facts, I can run the numbers on flip house in minutes…I want to be able to do that with parks, too. Thanks for any and all feedback.
I did a direct mail letter to about 200 park owners. Phone rang off the hook! Got 25 responses in ten days. My first thought…why do so many want to sell??? In any case, so far we’ve narrowed down the leads to this one…
Seller asking $140K
3.4 acres located in a military town. Every park owner I’ve talked to says vacancies are not an issue but turnover can be.
10 units - all separately metered for water/electric. All have individual septics. One of the units is not in the park, but on a rented lot across the street. Main road is not paved but in good condition. No pads or driveways at units. Typical to this area, people drive in the yard to park, so they all have dirt/worn grass parking areas. Despite this, the yards/grass are very nice and we did not see any standing water issues.
There is a additional unit not hooked up that is used for storage. Looks terrible but does serve it’s purpose well.
The current owner has treated the park like a personal housing area for friends and family, so the current numbers aren’t great. Owner lives in one unit, daughter lives in one rent free and several others are vacant for one reason or another. Rents have not been raised in years. Owner seems to rent low to rent quick and to keep the long termers.
Here’s the breakdown… (the /$ under rents indicates what the unit SHOULD be getting if rented)
Lot # Rents Year Size Bed/Ba Condition/Notes
1 vacant/$475 1984 14X70 2/2 uninhabitable. Needs removed.
2 owner/$475 1974 14X70 2/2 good interior/exterior needs work
3 $400 1973 12X60 2/1 fairly new tenants
4 $350 1970 12X60 3/1 Decent exterior. Long term tenant with spotty payment history.
5 $450 1997 14X70 3/2 Best unit in Park. Long term tenant who does work in park.
6 $375 1983 14X60 2/1.5 tenant moving soon. New baby on the way. Spotty payments. Will need work.
7 family/$395 1971 12X70 2/1 decent
8 $450 1983 14X70 3/2 Ugly exterior!
9 vacant/$350 1972 12X50 2/1 needs repairs - s/b less than $350 to fix.
10 vacant/$475 1990 14X70 2/2 Good condition. On rented lot @ $90 month.
In a nutshell, only 5 units are now collecting rents (#3,4, 5, 6, 8), #1 unit needs pulled off and replaced, #9 needs repairs before renting and #10 just needs to be rented. If we purchase, owner wants to stay in #2 for some time and daughter will vacate #7.
If full, at current rental rates, the park should be grossing about $4195 per month ($50340/yr)
The total monthly expenses are $1787 as I’ve attempted to budget them
40 Security Lights
80 Trash
150 Insurance
39 Taxes (Land - $460/yr)
23 Taxes (Units - $268/yr)
400 Lawn Maintenance (this is a WAG. Right now tenants are "supposed" to maintain their own lawns)
125 Legal (.0025 of gross rents/12)
420 Repairs (10% of gross rents/12)
420 Vacancy (10% of gross rents)
90 Lot Rent (#10)
$1787 TOTAL Expenses ($21444/yr)
So here’s what we need help with…
What should we offer for the park?
If I use Dave Reynolds QAD formula before even looking at the park (units-vacancy X lot rent X 70), it looks like this: 9 X $175 X 70 = $110250
Using Chrissy Jackson’s Value formula (I/R=V), I come up with $115584
Put into words, the Value of the community (V) equals the Income (I) divided by the Rate of return (R).
28896/25%= $115584 (thot I’d share those formulas for other newbies like me - though rate of return is another WAG).
I’ve seen other ways to structure an offer but I’m sure I need a better grasp of the value of the units themselves.
But, being the house flipping type, it seems like we’re leaving out a huge expense - removing and replacing one unit.
What would you offer for this park?
What questions do we need to ask about the infrastructure?
What contract contingencies should we include?
**What other questions do we need to ask???**
This "seems like" a good deal but I don’t bank on "seems like". I want the numbers and the facts to talk to me. I’m just not sure of all the questions to ask. Given the facts, I can run the numbers on flip house in minutes…I want to be able to do that with parks, too. Thanks for any and all feedback.